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I was recruited into Mary Kay two years ago. I jumped on the band wagon and worked my butt off. About six months into the deal, I realized they tried to talk every girl/woman into buying as much product to stock on their shelves as they could possibly squeeze out of her.

Then, I noticed a ton of women who were not wise enough to protect their interest by getting out within the 12 months you are alloted. There are tons and tons of women with huge inventories in their basements collecting dust. There are so many incentives that require buying more products. Many women have maxed out their credit cards purchasing unneeded inventory to acquire another prize level or sales director status.

The thing is, Mary Kay boasts that they are the number one best-selling cosmetic on the market. This comes from sales numbers; guess who is buying the products, the dealers, not the public. I wish someone would expose this as it is horrible what is going on.

The products are excellent, but their marketing plan stinks for the majority of women biting into it. I was lucky enough to sell down my inventory and now I sell only to a select group of women. There are so many women that did not see what was going on until it was too late for them to return their $3000+ inventory.

I am sorry that you didn't make a very wise decision on inventory. Obviously, you didn't really carefully go over your options and write a business plan as to how you would run your business. Like I have mentioned to others on this page, if you started a business with no inventory it would NEVER make it. You wouldn't open a dress shop or gift store with no inventory would you? Women who are saying they are suckered into buying inventory obviously aren't researching and coming up with an actual business plan. If they didn't know in a whole year of being in Mary Kay that they could get out, they weren't working their business. They obviously read no company literature, never looked on the website, and never went to a success event. That is their own fault, because as we all know, you show up to go up!

My comments to this edit above......"you show up to go up??????"....I heard that so many times I could die. The meetings get boring after awhile....all you do is hear "I stories" from women who got there by other ways than working their business,,..they are not all up front with you about how they attained their "goals"...... The blame game about not working the business is ridiculous. To Brandie.....how much do you actually make a year in your lovely Mary Kay business after expenses?????? And, who tells the women to 'write a business plan' when they recruit someone.......the recruiters are hot after someone new to purchase inventory because they NEED THEM TO DO SO TO MAINTAIN a level or car or qualify for something. Rarely is it in the 'best interest of the recruit'.......AND, as we've been told, get these women to events to 'benefit ourselves'.....that too is a huge joke. So Brandie, please don't generalize about why people leave this business........'working a Mary Kay business' is totally dependent on what others do and we only have so much control over that before we start harming relationships.

Another opinion----------------------------------------------------------------------

Joining MK can be fun, and you have the opportunity to make new friends. Just go into MK with your eyes wide open--the director's job is to influence consultants into buying lots of inventory meaning that all consultants are strongly encouraged or manipulated by their director, whichever way you look at it, into being "star" consultants with over $3,000 in w/s inventory at all times. That is a lot of make-up and skin care items on your shelf. After your family and friends have bought from you, then in order to sell products you have to "cold call" or "warm chatter" strangers, who will looks at you like you're nuts trying to sell MK at the grocery or Wal-mart. No one likes a sales pitch. The products do not sell themselves. If you doubt this, look at all the unsold MK products listed on ebay. Sorry to be so harsh but this is reality. All activities at success meetings are geared toward this one goal: making monthly production for your director. There is nothing wrong with that, but just be forwarned; what looks like friendship can be a way to manipulate money out of you. If you join start with a very small inventory, or better yet, take orders and only buy products to fulfilled paid orders. Go into it with the goal of having fun with minimal financial investment. And if you are one of the lucky ones who can sell lots of product you can always order more.


I know that some people's experience with Mary Kay may be negative but I think it is important to be fair... It may just be your opinion, not the reality of Mary Kay Cosmetics. We all know that anyone can take something awesome and make it horrible, if they lack the character to handle it with care. The reason that Mary Kay consultants are encouraged to start with a lot of inventory is because when someone is opening a store, they need to have a product on their shelf. The number one reason that small businesses fail is because of under investment. Would you shop at a grocery store that had one loaf of bread and one gallon of milk? No. When you open a store with the intention of selling something, you will have happier customers if they have confidence that you have what they need. I don't know about you, but I tend to squeek every last drop out of my moisturizer before it's gone. I am glad my consultant had the product when I called! The incentives and prizes are a generous way that Mary Kay rewards women for doing their business well. If someone makes a foolish decision to buy product to win a prize, that is poor judgement on their part. You are supposed to earn prizes by selling the product and then placing reorders. Mary Kay has been honored in "Forbes greatest Business Stories Of All Time",Baylor University named Mary Kay as the Greatest Female Entrpreneur in American History, Mary Kays marketing plan is taught at Harvard Business School...1% of women in the US earn over $100,000 a year and 70% of them are in Mary Kay...This is a great opportunity for women who are committed to treating it as a business, not a hobby... Mary Kay's dream was to create a company that gave women incredible opportunities to reach their full potential. Not everyone in Mary Kay shares her vision. You may find people who are out for themselves. But my experience has been that an overwhelming number of women in Mary Kay are passionate about helping other women. That is what we are taught to do. ..Not hard selling the product.. The Golden Rule is the standarad that Mary Kay teaches people to live by. Putting God first, Family second, and career third...That's Mary Kay Cosmetics... ______________________________________________________________________________________ I did my business this way and earned the use of a career car in 9 months. I was only working 5 hours a week at the time too! There are requirements that I have to meet to have the priviledge of driving a company car. I would expect that to be the case though...Ususally only Corproate Prsidents drive around in company cars and they have to work a lot more than a few hours a week! I was also able to have my husband quit his full time job at 27 years old, to come home and help me raise our 2 children with in 18 months of starting my business.This year I earned over $70,000 in my 3rd yr in Mary Kay. The reason there may be more negative comments on this board, than positive is simply that the rest of the other one million consultants are out holding appointments and encouraging women around the globe...
Another opinion:
(Did the person above erase the original statement in opinion 1?) I was recruited into MK with the following sales pitch--Why buy your products at retail when you can get them for wholesale as an consultant? Once I found out Mk products were marked up 100%(double w/s price)by my consultant I was shocked! I joined just to buy my products at discount, but I was willing to give MK a fair try. When my director came to my home she pushed the 2000 + inventory and stated that each consultant should be a Star consultant. The success meeting were geared toward pushing consultants to buy more inventory and recruit more consultants. My director pressured me to recruit before I had a chance to hold my first skin care class. The purpose of this board is to warn others to be careful about high pressure tactics used by MK directors.
MaryWard web search for MaryWard - 05 Mar 2004
Mary:

Thanks for pointing out that the original statement got deleted. I've reinserted it.
EliMantel web search for EliMantel - 05 Mar 2004


Another opinion AND FACT..
'Mary Kays marketing plan is taught at Harvard Business School...1% of women in the US earn over $100,000 a year and 70% of them are in Mary Kay...This is a great opportunity for women who are committed to treating it as a business, not a hobby...'

Somebody came up with a comment as this earlier in this thread. I have heard similar statements in other MLM companies, without them being supported with material that proves statements like that true. THE FACT is that Mary Kays business plan is not thaught in Harvard (if you doubt this please contact the dean of the school) and other fact is that not 70% of women earning over 100K are from MK. Also, somebody said earlier that NO 1 FAILURE in small business is UNDERINVESTMENT...THIS is a first time a heard this LIE. Please show us the material (links are fine) where a study conducted shows that underinvestment is the no 1 reason for faileure. WOMEN! Be more crical.CRITICAL thinking. PLEASE. Do not just accept these LIES as a mere fact, because they are not facts.Just lies heard from upslime and repeated by trusting (most) women. .....Oh Dear.

*** OK, wow I am really, really shocked at the statements made by some of the "ladies" on this site. I just had to add my input! So here I go: A) Obviously many, many of these "ladies" when opening their Mary Kay business, had NEVER been in sales before. (and no I am not talking about working the cash register at Wal Mart). Sales is not for everyone!! However horrible it seems to you it is something that is done to you every day!!!! Be it at a Real Estate office, a clothing store or online. And it is not a bad thing to sell someone. (Allthough Mary Kay products DO sell themselves a SALESPERSON is required as with any product on the market) B) When you began your MK journey did you think that you could just sit around and your bank account would increase itself? NO! When you sign up you are opening your own business! It's like opening a Century 21 franchise. But since the starting cost is only $100 these people don't take it seriously. Well, if you do you can succeed. It's not a job it's a business!! The American dream. There is no such thing as get rich quick, or else these MK sales reps would all be retired and living in Maui! Anyone that would open their own business and expect not to put in the effort (and if thats not working put in more effort) should not be considered legaly capapble to make any money spending decisions as they obviously are not fit for it. C) OF COURSE you need an inventory. When I buy something I personally don't want to wait for it! I paid so I want it now. If you don't have what I want now then I'll go to the Dillards make up counter right now and get myself a similar product and be able to use it tonight. Somewhere in here a person argued that with online shopping one has to wait as well. Well online shopping is great but mostly used for gift giving but when someone is shopping for makeup, lotion, soap etc. they don't go online, they ran out of soap ladies they are not gonna wait to wash until you have placed their product order. Do you? HELLO! They go to the store or call their MK consultant (if she has an inventory). D) In Mary Kay I have found a family, they are wondrful ladies that truely live by Do unto others as you want done unto you. And since becoming a MK consultant I am finally able to put God first, Family second and Career third. It IS encouraged!

So I'll end this by saying if you understand what I have written above and agree, then MK may be for you. If you don't, please don't begin a MK business because you will fail at it and then you will unfairly put an entry in this website dragging the empire that one inspiring and beautiful woman created, through the dirt. God bless you all.

***Guys point of view************* Well, my gf just started Mary Kay about 2 months ago. Im not too thrilled about it but I cant really do anything cuz its her decision. She bought 600 bucks worth of stuff and hasnt even begun selling anything. And now, shes thinking of buying 200 more. What kinda business practice is that? Well, its her money, shes not getting a dime from me. And screw what other ppl say about supporting your woman. Luckily she hasnt asked for any. But from a business/investment sense, if I were an investor, I wouldnt invest I dime till I see more of a return. Ya ya, inventory, I agree, but you only need so much inventory. If your sales director is so COOL, she'll lend you part of her inventory and you can just pay her back or even return it when you get your own stock. Plus, ladies, if you really want, just buy the stuff on ebay and try to sell it. It so much cheaper! Some if its just repackaged products that were the same as before. See if you can sell, if so, great! Join Mary Kay. Its not for everyone! Dont "invest" shit loads of money, try it out first. See if your sells director will let you try to go with her and sell her products with her just watching you. It'll give you a feel of your own sales capability. If they are anything they say they are, they'll be more willing to do that. She can keep the profit...whatever. And if they claim that you need a large inventory, that bull. If you have one product you should be able to sell that one product!...even if it takes 50 ppl to show it to. Take something like the saten hands kit. that one is suppose to sell itself. See if you can get 1 person to buy it out of 10-20. If you cant, then Mary Kay is not for you. Anywayz, I only hope the my gf doesnt turn out to be one of the statistics that we all hear about............. just use your common sense, dont listen to anyone but yourself. If they ask you to buy stuff, say no, do it when YOUR ready, not them. *******************************

*** Another Guys point of view *********** This is a male’s perspective of the ethics of this Mary Kay direct selling. Anytime you invite someone into your house, especially friends and family you have him or her at a disadvantage. You serve them coffee and finger food and then show them product. Even though there is a “no obligation to buy policy”, there is a psychological obligation to buy. My wife is a beautician by trade and has a closet full of her favorite beauty products. She knows the prices, she knows what she likes, she knows that Mary Kay is generally overpriced. Her Mary Kay sales friend doesn’t use the products herself because she feels they are expensive. My wife felt an obligation to buy a couple items so her friend would be happy. She chose some of the cheapest items she could find. I totally am against home selling. It is worse than telemarketing. It is easy to hang up on a stranger and say, “please do not call again.” This is much harder to say to a friend. After going to one “party” how many times do you have to refuse invitations to next week’s party? My wife has stated in a kind way that she does not need Mary Kay products but her friend always manages to show something new to her every time they meet. My wife started a business based on selling her own manufactured consumer product and wanted to have a business kickoff party at home. I agreed with one stipulation: invite whoever you want, but there will be no sales of product at the party. This will be a party in the real sense of the word. If guests truly want to buy the product, they will come back some other time. Guests were fine with this, and why not? Most were neighbors and friends and did not have to go far to buy the product. Some came back to buy it. Most friends and family received the product as gifts for Xmas. If you have a place of business other than your home and have a grand opening, this is fine in my opinion. Mary Kay knows the power of the internal obligation of “friend selling” and exploits it. Mary Kay strains friendships. The selling does not stop at the party. It continues every time they meet in a social setting. When they go out to diner, when they go shopping, Etc. It has gotten to the point were my wife does not want to call her anymore and has heard that others are doing the same. She has suggested that my wife hold a party over our house for Mary Kay. If I did not allow sales at our own business kickoff party, what do you think her chances are to hold a Mary Kay party at our house? You guessed it – no way. Once you exhaust your direct friends and family in your initial sales drive, you have to convince friends and family to increase your sphere of influence. Otherwise you have to set up a traditional marketing plan and compete with every other cosmetic company out there. The vast majority of people will never make this jump. This is where my wife’s friend is now. She has exhausted her direct sphere of selling and has not recruited any “friend sellers”. She has gone on Mary Kay trips that look like they are designed to make more money for Mary Kay. She has to buy her training aides. If my company sends me on a training trip, it cost me nothing. If they don’t think its cost effective they won’t send me. So if you don’t care about straining friendships and the ethics of inviting someone to your house, telling them you get a 100% markup and then suggest they buy something (but don’t use it yourself because it is too expensive at half price) then go ahead and be a Mary Kay salesperson. Good friends are hard to come by these days it’s a shame to alienate them.

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