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Pressure to buy more inventory than can be sold in a reasonable amount of time is a direct violation of the Direct Selling Association, of which Mary Kay is proudly a member company. I suggest that if anyone truly feels that her director pressured large inventory purchase, in a demanding manner, that she take the following steps as suggested by the DSA:

"First, contact the salesperson immediately and explain your concerns.

Second, if the salesperson cannot or will not correct the problem to your satisfaction, call or write the company and explain the situation and outline the steps you would like to see taken.

If the company does not resolve your problem and it is a member of the Direct Selling Association, you may wish to file a complaint with the DSA Code Administrator."

The reason I say this is because I have full confidence in the company, and I think that if certain "sour grapes" would just confront their issues they would see the bigger picture, and not be so quick to jump to outrageous assumptions and conclusions at every chance they can get just because they were not successful in their OWN businesses.

But why is this such a big problem when there is a 90% buyback guarentee an all inventory purchased within a year? If you have a full store and sell nothing for 12 months, wouldn't that be a good indication that this business is not for you and you should return the product?

You can view the full text of the dsa code of ethics at dsa.org. I especially encourage you to see Part A, sections 1,6,7 and 9, which cover inventory loading, pyramid schemes, and deceptive or unlawful consumer or recruiting practices.
CrystalAmendola web search for CrystalAmendola - 28 Feb 2004

Crystal...

Sorry, but I can't agree with your perspective.

First, people are being unduly pressured to buy the inventory. Look at the presentations that are being recommended to be used to convince new signups to buy the inventory such as the one here: Mary Kay Inventory Loading Plan web search for Mary Kay Inventory Loading Plan

Second, if they've been trying to sell Mary Kay for a year, they have a lot more invested than just the cost of the merchandise. There are both other financial costs they've inccurred and a huge psychic cost, and you can be sure the director who pushed the consultant into buying that inventory is exacerbating that cost.

Third, Mary Kay's "never again" policy with respect to buybacks is unconscionable. IMO, it's not a valid provision for a bona fide buyback policy.
EliMantel web search for EliMantel - 28 Feb 2004

Whoaaaaaaaaaa! Reading the words from that National Sales Director really sent my heart racing, and not from excitement.......did everyone notice the FREE CAR, NO QUOTA STATEMENTS and the 'don't talk too much about how we make money'..........this thing totally spells .........M A N I P U L A T I O N........I am even disagreeing on the No Territory stuff too. Try putting an ad in the local paper, even an allowed ad like I did......you'll see the ugly side of directors when they see your ad. Wow, that whole thing just brought back bad memories and this is a God First? company. Puhlease. And, Crystal, I think that those who decided that employing these see-thru manipulative tactics was not for them are some of the most SUCCESSFUL women I know. This is not a business, this is a disgrace.

Oh, and BTW, someone correct me if I am wrong, but I didn't see anything in there about advising them of the 2 months they have to make an inventory decision or the opportunity presented 'to enrich a woman's life'. Revision r1.3 - 29 Feb 2004 - 09:21 by Laura Ryan web search for Laura Ryan

Wow - what an eye opener that article is. I agree with Laura that it is complete manipulation. And, it's manipulation in a most evil form because it is wrapping the manipulation up with a big pretty bow and calling it God centered. I hardly think God is pleased with this tactic.
MonicaJ web search for MonicaJ - 29 Feb 2004

"It's All in the Bag" - oh my, shall I laugh or cry? so appalling - but I actually did burst out laughing at the "(don't say dollars)" !!! If not dollars, 100 what, then, does it take [to sign up] - 100 buttons, 100 fish, 100 old shoes - lollollol?

Whatever happened to that, now apparently much abused, Golden Rule? - or do some MK directors themselves truly like nothing better than to be condescended and lied to, as part of a pitiful and transparent effort to manipulate them into a supposed "can't miss" business opportunity - rather than to be treated honestly and fairly, and with some shred of respect for their human dignity, and (presumed) native intelligence?

And here's me, foolishly thinking that fast-talking, simple-minded huckstering went out with the snake oil and the acompanying notion of customers as "rubes" and "suckers" - !!!

Still laughing, if painfully,

Bunny Watson - 02 Mar 2004

oh, and if those who were unsuccessful and decided to quit MK are "sour grapes," then what kind of "grapes" are those who were successful and yet, after duly "confronting" their ethics "issues," decided also to quit? just wondering ...

OH wow, everyone who posted to this thread should be ashamed of themselves (except for Crystal). When someone is offered such a fabulous opportunity like MK why do people turn it down and worse- beat it up? SO if it is not for you (Laura, Monica, Bunny) that is fine - LEAVE other to make their own decision. The sad thing about today's "edcuated" society is that we are conditioned to believe negativity - so when someone presents us with an opportunity that is wonderful we have to step back and "think" about it. Sadly, once thought about it we believe those negative nellies who say we can't, shouldn't, won't do it and we "think" ourselves right out of it too. The true test of a strong person is someone who can make a decision that is good for them.

Plus ladies - we are not talking a fortune. It's a hundred dollars - and darn if those manipulative marketing geniuses at Walmart don't get us ALL to spend that in one trip to their stores. Think about what you are saying and stop making it an "ethical" issue.
Johanna Antonio web search for Johanna Antonio - 4 Mar 2004

It's only a hundred dollars to start with ! Then they go in for the kill, the inventory decision, because you can't sell from an empty wagon and 99% of directors/recruiters FAIL to tell their recruits they actually have a couple months to make an inventory decision. Your statement: The true test of a strong person is someone who can make a decision that is good for them. Well, in MK, when stress is killing us over recruiting, making production and no one is left to recruit and our friends/family are alienating us and we are actually LOSING MONEY in this endeavor, I think the decision to QUIT is good and therefore, I am a strong person, thanks! Not everyone thinks this opportunity is as wonderful as you think it is, you must realize that, if you don't, you need to. Some are looking at it objectively and trying to find facts, facts that are really hard to find for anyone seeking knowledge of this 'business' and why would a legitimate business hide facts of turnover rates and income potential????? for the average consultant?
Re.Marketing Plan. God centred....where were God in that manipulation and twisting and lying. Yes. Lying. 3% - 80% rule. Where is the proof that verifies that statement? There are so many lies told that this marketing paln is on the border of misleading and morally illegal.... MK a business? Yes, but only for MK herself. And no, sorry....it is not a business.It is called FRAUD.
Steffi Forte web search for Steffi Forte - 6 Mar 2004
I am a Sales Director with Mary Kay & I am shocked at some of the postings on here! For one, when I share the marketing plan I do mention that inventory is optional, but recommended. I have seen so many consultants give up because it takes so much time for them to hold a class, go home & order product, wait for it to be delivered, & then have to deliver the product themselves. No wonder they get frustrated! As a Director I have seen the other side as well. I have girls in my unit who want to order $2,000 at the end of the quarter to get their star prize. I advise them against this greatly. They need to be selling the product in order to earn their prize, not taking the easy way out. Yes, I do have a production to make every month, but I am not going to willingly have a consultant "buy" her recognition! I want a strong unit & in the long run these practices paralyze them! I am in this business because I love the people & I love the personal growth. I do need to make a certain income per month - but I do not rely on my unit. It is ultimately up to me to make things happen.
Kaye Mellott web search for Kaye Mellott - 10 Mar 2004 ___________________________________

Thank you Kaye!!!

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