But because I loved the products, every single time I did order I got asked to hold a skin care class, help move some extra product, or to take advantage of the Mary Kay career opportunity for myself.
Early on I did get recruited because I really wanted the opportunity. I did go through the training and held skin care classes and did my utmost to work the business. I followed the training to the letter and still failed. Some people simply aren't cut out for sales. Paint it however you want to, it's sales. Some of us suck at it simply because we are better suited to other things. It is true, not everyone can be a successful beauty consultant and it isn't because they are lazy or didn't try hard enough or didn't follow the plan. I resent being told that it was my fault. I don't blame the company, but I don't appreciate the company's representatives blaming me.
So, I went back to being a loyal customer and saying no to every suggestion until the current consultant got it through her head that I JUST wanted to buy the stuff. Every time a consultant has finally wrapped her head around that, something happens in her life and she either quits or disappears. So, I have to go find a new consultant and go through the "I. DON'T. WANT. TO!" process all over again. They always want to know WHY I don't want to and try to come up with reasons to overcome my objections. They don't understand the concept of not doing something SIMPLY because you don't want to do it. Sometimes that really is all the reason you need in this life and that doesn't make you lazy or stupid. Sometimes it simply means you know what you want and know what you feel is worth putting your energy into.
The final straw was needing a tube of zit cream, not being able to find my consultant, and being told by her director that she isn't doing it anymore. So, I was set up with another consultant, another local director who had a bit more time to deal with a small order. Long story short, I got recruited again under the idea that I would merely be helping her sell extra stock as a favor to her for keeping her ears open for other job opportunities for me. I agreed to be reactivated so that it would be legal for me to sell product for her. Then, she gave me a free showcase as a "good luck" gift and I was smacked with the realization that she intended to work me up into a full consultant when all I'd intended was a small favor to her. I put my custom compact and every other glamour and supplemental product I'd acquired into the showcase and gave it back to her. She can return the products to the company for a refund for all I care because I wasn't satisfied with the makeup anyway. I kept my basic skin care because I'm going to miss using it. I still love it. But I just can't deal with the hassles and guilt anymore.
Sometimes a company/product just isn't a good match for a person and that person needs to find a company/product that is. The product was a perfect match, but the company wasn't, so I'm moving on. At least when I buy from a store I don't feel guilty for only spending $3 because it was my effort that got me there and nobody else was dragged out of their way just to benefit me. No bitterness here. Just wishing things had worked out better.
If you want to respond, go ahead, if not, don't worry about it!
L. Gourneau
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Hello...I also have to say that I agree with L. Gourneau....I would be more than happy to sell you one tube of zit cream or whatever else if thats all that you wanted. I have been in Mary Kay for about 3 months, and I am really just getting started. I did not want anyone to recruit me, and when someone tried to that pushed too hard, I talked to a freind of mine that sells Mary Kay, that had NEVER tried to recruit me, and asked her about signing up. So far, I feel pretty good about it. I just have to get to talking to people that like the products. I don't like to push anyone to buy anything, because I don't want to be pushed into buying anything. I also don't want to try to recruit anyone. If they want to sell they will ask me. So anyway, if you do need a consultant that accepts that you only want to buy one or two things every few months or whatever, please let me know. I will be glad to send it to you in the mail, and you can let me know when you need something, not the other way around. You can even order online or through email if thats better for you!!
Hope to hear from you, but if not, Take Care and Good Luck!!!
Jennifer Murphy Independent Beauty Consultant user jrmurphy at domain marykay.com www.marykay.com/jrmurphy
I am curious to the woman who posted the original message......YOU were an independent consultant......you only have to place an order once a year and get several tubes of zit cream YOURSELF as well as other products you personally use. Tell them to scat and keep your consultant number and enter your own orders on your own computer in the peace of your own home once a year, you CAN do that, how come you didn't.......?????? Did they tell you that's the way it works? If not, we need to talk. Laura
It's been eleven months since I oringally made my post. I'd forgotten all about it until I had a long sleepness night thanks to the locals enjoying their fireworks until 2am.
The reason I never placed a personal order as a consultant is because I am a minimalist. When I was paying retail for this stuff I averaged about $100 per year. A minimum order to maintain active status is $200.
The only thing that never occurred to me is that I might be able to use my consultant number to order wholesale product without meeting the minimum. That is, can an inactive consultant still purchase product from the company? I'm thinking not.
To any consultants who see this, please don't e-mail me with an offer to let me purchase from your site and have product mailed to me. It's a generous offer, but I don't feel like dealing with the consequences if I get old product that has separated in the bottle or calling you when the product gets lost in the mail or you "forgot" to send it. I returned a mask three times because every bottle I received contained contents that had seperated into green clumps and clear/yellow ooze.
The last time I made an order I ordered bronzing beads and number 2 mask. I got the bronzing beads and paid her because she promised to come back the next day with the mask when her order came in. She never came back and never returned my calls.
I know this isn't indicative of every MK consultant. I probably just have the horrible luck of continually running into the small minority of bad apples. I still have to cut my losses and move on. I've found products I like at the store. I don't have to wonder if I'll give someone money and not get my product. I don't have to wonder how long it will take me to get ahold of that person if my product has separated in the bottle and I need something less icky.
And for heaven's sake, stop spouting that babble about how ANYONE can succeed if they just work their business. Some of us work it hard, but contrary to what those motivational speakers say, attitude and effort are not the only things that determine personal success. Congratulations to the women who have found something they love and want to share with others, but don't lose sight of the fact that it isn't for everyone and that it isn't a personal failure or indication of a lack of integrity or character if someone decides it isn't for them.
I don't blame the company for my business not taking off. I blame the company for fostering the attitude that my business didn't take off because I had some personal failing or I didn't try hard enough or I didn't do things exactly as they said I should. I blame the company for encouraging the attitude that it is for EVERY woman and that any woman that it isn't for was somehow lacking. I blame the company for making my departure from it a painful experience rather than a positive one. It took alot of courage for me to know that it wasn't something I wanted to do and to walk away from it when everyone in the company was telling me how perfect it was and how I must not be doing something right if it wasn't perfect for me. It not being perfect for me had nothing to do with how I was approaching my business. It not being perfect for me did not make me less of a woman. It not being perfect for me was not a show of weakness or lack of ambition or refusal to build a better life for myself.
Mary Kay is a great opportunity for women, but it is not the only opportunity. It is also not the only high quality product available for women. Saying something is the "best" is purely subjective. What's best for me is not Mary Kay, not the product, not the business opportunity. And that is not indicative of some failing or ignorance or malice on my part. It's just the way it is. And that isn't a bad thing. It's just a thing.
This is the last I'm saying on the Mary Kay issue in my life. It wasn't for me. I moved on. That isn't a bad thing. In fact, it's been a great thing for me the way the products and being part of the company are great things for others.
Thank you for giving me a place to express my thoughts on it.
And I agree with you tht Mary Kay is not good for everybody, the products or the career. I'm a hobby consultant, but I know that if everybody could be a good consultant then there would not be any customers left. Also, although the products work for many people, they can't be great for every kind of skin and every person. Good luck to you with your new brand.
Maria "Marysia" Rasmussen
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