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My local church that I attend is crawling with Mary Kay sales reps. I think they go to church just to get new recruits! I go to church to worship, so this is very disturbing to me. The typical way they approach me is to ask me what I do for a living, and does my husband work. I tell them I am a working wife, and I hear this: "God really wants you to stay at home". Really? Who said? These women have no business telling me what my values are supposed to be. Also I might add, I am not going to buy products from them to help them "stay at home". I am not going to support their business.
AnastasiaParis web search for AnastasiaParis - 28 Jul 2005

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I don't know if God wants you to stay at home, but I doubt they go to church to get new recruits. Don't support their business - they probably don't need it. But if I had the choice to go to work or stay home with my kids and earn money, I know what I'd pick.

I hope you have someone at home earning a consistent income if you think you are going to depend on MK for income. It simply doesn't pay the bills - it may pay a few little bills and get you some extras, but when I refer to "THE BILLS" - I mean the ones like car payment, mortgage, food, utilities, etc.

If you are a consultant and have $1000/week every week of the year that's $52,000. Sound good? OK, knock off $25,000 for what that product cost you. Then, start deducting tax on the retail value, Section 2 sales aids, gas to facials, babysitters, etc., etc. Also, deduct the INCOME tax you have to pay on what's left. Gee, I bet you could easily be looking at the teens ($13-19,000) yr 19,000 being TOPS - AND, that is CONSISTENT $1,000 WEEKS FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR OF SALES.

Churches are recruiting grounds and many pastor's wives (or women pastors) are directors - gee, I bet God just loves that, now doesn't he! Surely is a merchant in the temple and we all know how Jesus felt about that - I dont' think he's changed his mind. I can say by firsthand experience how an mlm divides a church, especially if you have new members (of the church) and the mlm'ers don't look to them to welcome them as a saved soul- but as a potential recruit. It happens. It's ugly and it's definitely not a blessing to a church.

They have no clue what God wants for YOUR life - it's a sales tactic, that's all. Translated, they want to recruit you. Ironically - I've heard too many stories where MK women, who were stay-at-home mom's in the beginning had to go out and get J.O.B.S. to support their Mary Kay habit cause their husbands left them. (the ones with the real income) - they were never home - family became third, so their status as a 'wife' also became third to the husband -

Definitely bring it up to your pastors if you are being approached in your church about this or any other opportunity. It's WRONG. AND, just because someone in MK preaches about God does not mean they are a Christian. YOU CAN, safely assume, however, that they definitely follow MARY KAY - another God........

Of course if you're having $1000 weeks every week consistently, then you should have no less than 1 recruit a month and that's on the VERY conservative end of the spectrum. $1000 weeks means you're in front of no less than about 10 people. If you're in front of 40 people a month, even the most straight-shooter, tell it like it actually is, good bad and ugly consultant should still come up with AT LEAST 1 recruit. And if everyone is as underhanded and sneaky and concealing of facts as you and others would have us believe, we're talking about 3 or 4 recruits. Of which 1 or 2 will stick with it. So we're talking anywhere from 12 to 24 actual hard working recuits a year. Each year. By year 2 even you've got 24 to 48 hard working women under you and you'd be making a bit more than 52K a year before taxes and expenses. So if you want the mary kay people to be realistic, you need to be, too. There's no way you're in front of almost 500 women a year with no recuits unless you are just hell bent on not having any. Some aren't. But I'm in the insurance industry and even we know if you ask 100 people just like this "You don't want to buy any life insurance, do you?" at least 1 person will say "You know? I was just thinking I needed that." Same thing. Even the straight forward completely forthcoming consultant (and don't misconstrue me as saying that's a bad thing, it's how it should be and why it used to take a lot longer to get to the top) would, just by working, end up with no less than 5 consultants a year just by 1 out of 100 asking for the opportunity. And that is given your $1000 week scenario. Obviously numbers vary accordingly relative to each other.
AmySilk web search for AmySilk - 10 Mar 2006

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