Mary Kay Thread Retaining Director Status

...speaking of FREE cars......there is NO FREE CAR..as I began to mention earlier, if your unit and yourself earn it, it must be maintained, meaning you and your unit must make a certain amount of production each month, short of that,if your production falls below a certain level, you must co-pay including INSURANCE....(another fact I found out after the fact and cannot find anywhere in writing is that if you co-pay the lease payment, you must also co-pay the INSURANCE)..if it's written somewhere, someone correct me. Then, if you fail to increase your production after you've fallen short or do not have enough active recruits (for Grand AM), you will get an 'option letter' from the company giving you the option to to purchase the car or return it...Grand Prixs and Cadillacs have a quarterly quota.
LauraRyan

- 02 Dec 2003

... I missed for 2 months and because I did well the other months and had my performance account, my car was Okay but I was worried (because I was getting married and went on my honeymoon and just got distracted and missed production) that Mary Kay may take my Directorship. I called Mike Strong who is in Emerald Sales Development and HE told ME that I should not worry that I missed 2 months and that life happens, just try harder next month and keep in touch! I was SO IMPRESSED and felt so relieved and I went on and had my best month, up to that point, the next month!

... we DO NOT have to take the car and I have NEVER taken a Car! I have taken CASH because I have a very nice car! I have never had to make a copayment, therefore have always received my $350/mo for the Grand Am that now pays $375 (Mary Kay raised it!) and currently get $500/month for the Grand Prix and that has since been raised to $525!

Where do you find a company that will INCREASE what they are already doing/paying!?!

... I don't understand how the 1099 is even an issue because Mary Kay could not legally give us a car or the money from a car without it being reported to the IRS.
WendyTurnidge - 31 Dec 2003

Wendy response: I am not speaking just for myself. In one of these posts I referred to 2 Directors, 1 a friend who I do my meetings with and another my recruiter. They both have missed up to 3 months straight and yes a form letter comes but it's just a form letter. I threw mine away a long time ago but I am certain it tells us to contact them. The other thing about these letters is that they praise you and tell you that they know you can do it. They are not mean letters but warning letters that you missed and it reiterates what our responsibility is as a Director. Myself and the one Director who missed have always been so amazed at how nice they are in these letters and how praising and uplifting of what they know you can do because you obvioulsly did it once already!
WendyTurnidge

- 1 Jan 2004

I received a letter stating IN BOLD PRINT, that failure to meet production 2 months in a row is a VIOLATION OF MY DIRECTOR"S AGREEMENT and that my grace month was a ONE TIME Deal. The company is nice and will work with you, that's true, but it wasn't my experience nor many others'. Wendy is speaking for herself and is a fine example of what should be, but this is not the case for most and this is what I address.

... my point of the 1099 is to advise that the CAR IS NOT FREE as they tell you........many women are led to believe they WIN A FREE CAR, they are led astray up front, they think they qualify for it, and bam, it's the reward, no more needs to be done, YES, it's published, and YES, they should check it out, but my point is, NO ONE should say it's FREE when it's NOT.)

... I sure as heck wish I could have gotten one of those nice letters to encourage me and let me try yet another month as a new director who had received NO training.....my training was scheduled Late October - which I cancelled cause I couldn't afford to go and I had decided to hang it up anyway - and I debuted in July.......as it was, I got the letter that boldly stated 2 months in a row is a NO NO. Perhaps with directors who are like Wendy and have proven records, it's different, but it wasn't in my case and I am not the only one)
LauraRyan - 02 Jan 2004

So, the letter is NICE when it's in bold print "YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF YOUR DIRECTORS AGREEMENT WHEN YOU DO NOT MAKE PRODUCTION"? It was not a nice letter and all directors who miss production for 2 months in a row and utilize their one time only grace month should 'step down'. Then on these boards, you write that women miss again and again and never get 'let go', why is that? Everyone has one thing in common, they missed production, so why do some stay and why do some go? Can anyone from the company enlighten us on this phenomena?
Jessica A - 30 May 2004

Unless you have a legit reason as to why you violated your directors agreement.

Jury Awards $11.2M in Mary Kay Suit

TEXAS - A jury in Texas ordered Mary Kay Inc. to pay $11.2 million including $10 million in punitive damages, for firing a sales manager disabled by cancer, who, the company argued, was not an employee but an independent contractor.

"This verdict means the 920,000 alleged independent contractors working for Mary Kay have their civil rights," said plaintiff's counsel Angela Alioto. "If they get sick, they have a remedy. They can take a leave."

JoG - 23 Jul 2004

Has anybody heard what changes MK has made to avoid similar lawsuits in the future?

EliMantel - 23 Jul 2004

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